During an exclusive interview with The Associated Press, on Tuesday, Pope Francis said that the world was obsessed with having weapons and that war was a path of arrogance compared to negotiation and dialogue. The pontiff studied an AP photo from Mariupol, Ukraine taken by AP photographer Evgeniy Maloletka, which showed an injured, pregnant woman being carried from a maternity hospital. According to the Pope, the arms industry has brought untold death and destruction to the world. “Countries, instead of testing the weapon of dialogue, of understanding, of negotiation, we are going to the weapon of arrogance, of war.” he said, adding that this was the "easy path". Concerning the war in Ukraine, Pope Francis has expressed the idea that all sides would like to open a dialogue on the matter, but that no side was willing to make any concessions.